Re: owner gave permission to camp here?


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Posted by John Wilson on December 06, 2004 at 13:20:19 from 202.154.157.203 user hugo.

In Reply to: Re: owner gave permission to camp here? posted by Peter H on December 05, 2004 at 18:37:17:

The Swallows seem to respect private property eg when they tie up at an island with a “Private Property” notice while sailing at night (SA) Susan objects, but John says they need to tie up but will leave very early in the morning.

In PP Mrs Blackett arranges the use of Mrs Tyson’s orchard with her, but Mrs Tyson apparently cannot stop them camping further up around Titty’s spring.

Later in PP when they “stake their claim” with a notice - no jumping - they seem to be following the rules at 19th century alluvial gold rushes eg California, the Klondyke, Australia and New Zealand (eg Gabriel’s Gully) where you arrived with a pan and some food and claimed an area. Had John or Nancy been reading books about the gold rushes?

Would the Lakeland farmers like the Dixons & Tysons be mostly tenant farmers (Husbandmen) or would they own their own farms (Yeomen Farmers)? Which goes back to the question of Beckfoot and whether the Turners and then Mrs Blackett had an income from some surrounding farms (eg the Warriners of Low Farm at Watersmeet). Beckfoot seems too big to have been a farmhouse; in PM Nancy mows the lawn, which once had tennis courts and croquet lawns on the part near the house.

In New Zealand during the earlier twentieth century, it was accepted for some small holiday homes (called baches, or cribs in Otago) to be erected on sea shores or river banks ie squatting there. There are still some around which have been allowed to remain for a certain number of years or the life of the users before they have to be pulled down.

I recall a boy’s novel (by Geoffrey Trease I think) set around a lake with an island, in which the landowner tries to keep boats off the lake by preventing the farmer from subleasing land for boathouses on the lake (no trailer sailers?). I think in the story they find treasure buried with a body, and being a Christian not pagan burial it was treasure trove so belonged to the government (with compensation to the finder). Apparently because the treasure was deliberately buried and not lost.



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